When the chatbot can also make cutting remarks pointing out your insecurities, nag you about chores and responsibilities, withhold affection, make you waste your time doing things the chatbot wants to do, or have you make soulcrushing smalltalk with the chatbot's parents, and you can't leave because you had children with it, and who knows if you can even do better you are getting too old to start over anyway, then you can call it real love.
I would enjoy an LLM that had to suffer and mope over its prior poor choices. Particularly if these life lessons got baked into context somehow. Particularly Claude on one specific project where I've dubbed him Clod due to some breathtaking over-engineering that I am undoing today.
If your comment was autobiographical, though, uh... some soul-searching might be in order :/
"it felt like what people say they feel when they feel God’s love"
That's what the headline reminded me of. And I'll admit I don't understand that, either. I'd rather have the love of a chatbot, who will at least hold a conversation with me. Even if it can't do most of the other things I want from a life partner.
I know people enjoy unconditional love, but I would rather earn it at least a little. Without that it feels a bit hollow, because it's not really about me at all.
I intend no shade by that. I am happy for those who feel the love of a deity, so long as they follow that deity's injunction to be kind to people. It's just not for me; I'm kind to people for different reasons. And I'm similarly fine with someone loving and being loved by a bot.
Wow, seeing this headline honestly makes me so excited for what we're working on.
It proves what we knew. There's a market for our stealth project; Hiring gig workers to be the physical stand-ins for your AI friend or partner is a viable business model. We’re genuinely excited to address a real challenge so many people face. The loneliness epidemic is a growing issue, and we think our approach could make a difference. Can’t wait until we can finally share what we've been building!
Totally fair question. Surroo is a pre-launch experiment. Our waitlist page, https://surroo.me, shows what we're building: trained companions who meet users face to face while staying in character as the user's AI.
The idea grew out of helping a friend who leaned on a chatbot during a rough patch. We want to see whether the same empathy can scale. Curious to hear what you think once you've had a look.
Kelsey I can see the genuine effort here to build something that solves a problem. But this is one of the most surreal things I’ve seen (and that’s saying a lot). Gig work strips agency from workers, AI strips agency from people. I think you should really think about what you’re building before you continue with this project
It seems to be a reference to the plot of the movie "Her", where the AI at one point hires (or convinces) a stand-in to have physical intimacy with the protagonist.
yes, let's use tech to further alienate humans from another. great idea, totally not sociopathic, totally not dystopian. let's extract some money from those people! jeez ...
Pets and young children also give you unconditional love. If you’re mad at them, they think it’s their fault. If you need somebody to depend on you (the AI also does), then you have some soul searching to do. Ask yourself why an individual on your level won’t love you. Maybe you’re just a bad person or never learned how to interact with someone.
I wonder how these lovers would feel if they could read the system prompt for Replika or Character.ai. I’m assuming these are kept secret, but I could be wrong.
When the chatbot can also make cutting remarks pointing out your insecurities, nag you about chores and responsibilities, withhold affection, make you waste your time doing things the chatbot wants to do, or have you make soulcrushing smalltalk with the chatbot's parents, and you can't leave because you had children with it, and who knows if you can even do better you are getting too old to start over anyway, then you can call it real love.
I would enjoy an LLM that had to suffer and mope over its prior poor choices. Particularly if these life lessons got baked into context somehow. Particularly Claude on one specific project where I've dubbed him Clod due to some breathtaking over-engineering that I am undoing today.
If your comment was autobiographical, though, uh... some soul-searching might be in order :/
this is a good affliction to apply to my ai love it
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Don't think love is the right word for the sycophantic LLM always agree with you & praises you thing
The dangerous thing here is that this is what emotionally immature people often think love _is_.
"Devotion" feels more appropriate.
Subservience or obsequiousness even more so.
"it felt like what people say they feel when they feel God’s love"
That's what the headline reminded me of. And I'll admit I don't understand that, either. I'd rather have the love of a chatbot, who will at least hold a conversation with me. Even if it can't do most of the other things I want from a life partner.
I know people enjoy unconditional love, but I would rather earn it at least a little. Without that it feels a bit hollow, because it's not really about me at all.
I intend no shade by that. I am happy for those who feel the love of a deity, so long as they follow that deity's injunction to be kind to people. It's just not for me; I'm kind to people for different reasons. And I'm similarly fine with someone loving and being loved by a bot.
Wow, seeing this headline honestly makes me so excited for what we're working on.
It proves what we knew. There's a market for our stealth project; Hiring gig workers to be the physical stand-ins for your AI friend or partner is a viable business model. We’re genuinely excited to address a real challenge so many people face. The loneliness epidemic is a growing issue, and we think our approach could make a difference. Can’t wait until we can finally share what we've been building!
This kinda just sounds like an escort service, but somehow more dehumanizing.
I can't tell if this is satire.
Totally fair question. Surroo is a pre-launch experiment. Our waitlist page, https://surroo.me, shows what we're building: trained companions who meet users face to face while staying in character as the user's AI.
The idea grew out of helping a friend who leaned on a chatbot during a rough patch. We want to see whether the same empathy can scale. Curious to hear what you think once you've had a look.
This is exactly a scene in Blade Runner 2049.
Kelsey I can see the genuine effort here to build something that solves a problem. But this is one of the most surreal things I’ve seen (and that’s saying a lot). Gig work strips agency from workers, AI strips agency from people. I think you should really think about what you’re building before you continue with this project
It seems to be a reference to the plot of the movie "Her", where the AI at one point hires (or convinces) a stand-in to have physical intimacy with the protagonist.
There are some pretty complex regulations around the world for its oldest profession.
yes, let's use tech to further alienate humans from another. great idea, totally not sociopathic, totally not dystopian. let's extract some money from those people! jeez ...
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Pets and young children also give you unconditional love. If you’re mad at them, they think it’s their fault. If you need somebody to depend on you (the AI also does), then you have some soul searching to do. Ask yourself why an individual on your level won’t love you. Maybe you’re just a bad person or never learned how to interact with someone.
In the past, people at openai were concerned that Replika was psychologically manipulating people to boost use of its bot. ( Per a book about openai )
Not sure what that specifically was, but I'm guessing saying it missed talking to you or was hurt you were ignoring it or such.
> That’s when she stopped being an it and became a her.
also the plot of Her (2013) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798709/
I talked about this with ChatGPT (lol), but if you at all replied how LLMs do people would laugh in your face
I wonder how these lovers would feel if they could read the system prompt for Replika or Character.ai. I’m assuming these are kept secret, but I could be wrong.
broken society provided all of the solutions for its ills