Slight off-topic, but getting organized was a lifelong struggle for me (I was the person who had a five-foot high stack of unorganized papers and crap in their locker in middle and high school), and org-mode is the only system that broke me out of that cycle. It has genuinely changed my life. It's not for everyone, but if you've been unsatisfied with everything else and keep jumping from system to system, it's worth a try. (Especially now that you can get Claude to just explain the basics of Emacs configuration to you, which wasn't the case when I started.)
>Especially now that you can get Claude to just explain the basics of Emacs configuration to you, which wasn't the case when I started
although also worth pointing out that Emacs often leads with the adjective self-documenting for a reason. Emacs has fantastic facilities built in to get information on virtually anything. Tutorials with C-h t, manuals with C-h r, apropos and describe- to search for any object etc. And pretty much any major extension like org has great documentation. Which btw I think is well worth reading or at least skimming to get an idea on how much you can do with it.
Orgmode has been on the back of my mind forever. Ive been working on implementing a system recently. My hesitation with orgmode is that I'd like to share calendar/todo list with my non technically minded spouse and I like Vim. Any suggestions?
There is org-caldav that you can point to an org file and it syncs with a caldav server. This way you can have two-way sync from e.g. a phone's calendar to your org file.
I'm in the exact same boat. I've started exploring https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode and it seems to be a pretty accurate emulation of Emacs Orgmode, or at least I haven't run into its limitations yet since I'm just starting to explore it. I still haven't solved the sharing of calender/todo info but this page has some ideas that could work to varying degrees: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-google-sync.html
> seems to be a pretty accurate emulation of Emacs Orgmode
Oh, so it allows you to have source blocks in different languages where you can pass data between one another? I am highly skeptical it's possible in that fork at all.
I have not implemented a solution to this, but it's been on my radar for a while. The two best options of which I'm aware are:
1. Export a .ics file based on your agenda (support for this is built-in) to a shared folder to which your spouse has access (syncthing/dropbox/whatever). Your spouse would then use their calendar app to subscribe to the ics file. When you push changes to the ics file, they would automatically propagate on the calendar.
2. Use built-in org html export features to generate a simple page showing your schedule and either host it on your local network or put it in a shared directory as described above.
edit: sibling comment has a better suggestion (org-caldav)
I basically just wrote my answers in a neighboring comment, but I would try Spacemacs (default is Evil mode aka vim mode) backed with an Obsidian vault. I share a subfolder of the vault with my wife via iCloud, who can open it up on her phone and see the content and make edits in a non-techie way.
I have been interested in trying emacs for a long time (I recently found an old emacs config file of mine from 2003) but I haven't actually used it until the last few months when I gave Spacemacs another shot. Coming from vim, and having some pretty great defaults out of the box, I wouldn't suggest anyone try anything else at this point.
That said, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how org-mode can work with my existing Obsidian vault. So far it's working pretty well, but I still feel like I'm missing some things to make it really all click together.
Use org-babel to execute the queries, from my “sql-queries.org” file.
Overwrite results into a /tmp file, also an org-mode file, with latest query results (call it anything — “query-result.org”).
Make psql spit out org-formatted tables for extra oomph.
Keep that results file open in another buffer (or frame on a big screen, if the table is wide).
Let Emacs auto-refresh the buffer, when it detects the file has changed.
Et voila! L’établi SQL du pauvre.
Screenshot + sample code in the gist below (a `.org` file, as befits this topic :)
I used Org Mode for all mandatory assignments [0] when I was a student, it worked super well and I could create well formatted LaTeX documents/PDFs from it as well. The supervisors were very impressed that I did my assignment in LaTeX, and I could never be bothered to correct them :-)
Very much this. In fact, I had made a note about earning "professor points", in my (giant) blog post [0] describing my org-mode use...
6. Professor Points: I also get intermediate tex output for free,
which I don't need, but may please you if you are a professor
(or said professor's hopelessly sleep derived grad students).
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ah ... hahaahhh ... quite possibly, I was sleep, ah, derived at the time of finishing it up ... i shall let the typo remain, to vex yet another eagle-eyed reader
Kudos to you, my biggest regret nowadays was not learning how to use orgmode (and org-roam) in college. As long as you set up a proper environment and have an org-publish config you barely need to bother with verbose LaTeX documents.
I had an amusing incident that was related, quite some years back as a CS undergrad. One prof had quite poor eyesight, so had a no-pencil rule for assignments. Typed was OK, neat pen was fine also. (My writing has always been atrocious, typed it is.) As it happened, I used LaTeX (and I knew she did also.)
She also had a rule about promptness of assignment delivery, meaning the start of class when she arrived. Fair enough!
On this one assignment, I had done all but the last question at home, and printed it off, with the hope that I could finish it at the lab and send it to a laser printer in another building. At the time, labs used shared, dot-matrix printers that were usually jammed. I got the last question done, sent it to the printer, then checked the queue. Apparently someone was printing a book, not going to get done before class.
I emailed her my .tex file, with the explanation that I'd hand in my incomplete printout in class, but would appreciate if she could mark the last section so I knew how I did. This was sent well before class, as the timestamp would show. The prof ended up printing, marking, and returning this version, and I received full marks!
That's a built-in elisp function. Yes, you can call arbitrary functions to assign vars for org-mode source blocks. You can even assign shell command output, I often do things like:
That's an absurd bananas degree of ingenious engineering that makes you question the sanity of programmers who deliberately abandon Emacs, even after experiencing such power.
I used a similar setup a long while ago and wanted a way to connect to databases easily. So I wrote some code to parse the MySQL and Postres config files to extract database info in Emacs: https://stackoverflow.com/a/46114944
Emacs with databases without org would be interessing. I now there is sql-mode which supposedly works to connect with an inferior process but a tuorial about that would be nice
Slight off-topic, but getting organized was a lifelong struggle for me (I was the person who had a five-foot high stack of unorganized papers and crap in their locker in middle and high school), and org-mode is the only system that broke me out of that cycle. It has genuinely changed my life. It's not for everyone, but if you've been unsatisfied with everything else and keep jumping from system to system, it's worth a try. (Especially now that you can get Claude to just explain the basics of Emacs configuration to you, which wasn't the case when I started.)
>Especially now that you can get Claude to just explain the basics of Emacs configuration to you, which wasn't the case when I started
although also worth pointing out that Emacs often leads with the adjective self-documenting for a reason. Emacs has fantastic facilities built in to get information on virtually anything. Tutorials with C-h t, manuals with C-h r, apropos and describe- to search for any object etc. And pretty much any major extension like org has great documentation. Which btw I think is well worth reading or at least skimming to get an idea on how much you can do with it.
Orgmode has been on the back of my mind forever. Ive been working on implementing a system recently. My hesitation with orgmode is that I'd like to share calendar/todo list with my non technically minded spouse and I like Vim. Any suggestions?
>I like Vim
doom emacs
>share calendar/todo
There is org-caldav that you can point to an org file and it syncs with a caldav server. This way you can have two-way sync from e.g. a phone's calendar to your org file.
I'm in the exact same boat. I've started exploring https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode and it seems to be a pretty accurate emulation of Emacs Orgmode, or at least I haven't run into its limitations yet since I'm just starting to explore it. I still haven't solved the sharing of calender/todo info but this page has some ideas that could work to varying degrees: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-google-sync.html
> seems to be a pretty accurate emulation of Emacs Orgmode
Oh, so it allows you to have source blocks in different languages where you can pass data between one another? I am highly skeptical it's possible in that fork at all.
Org Mode it's far more than that.
I have not implemented a solution to this, but it's been on my radar for a while. The two best options of which I'm aware are:
1. Export a .ics file based on your agenda (support for this is built-in) to a shared folder to which your spouse has access (syncthing/dropbox/whatever). Your spouse would then use their calendar app to subscribe to the ics file. When you push changes to the ics file, they would automatically propagate on the calendar.
2. Use built-in org html export features to generate a simple page showing your schedule and either host it on your local network or put it in a shared directory as described above.
edit: sibling comment has a better suggestion (org-caldav)
https://www.spacemacs.org/
Well integrated with vim keys, batteries-included conf. Maybe I'm just not ready for Doom Emacs yet, but this is what works for me.
I basically just wrote my answers in a neighboring comment, but I would try Spacemacs (default is Evil mode aka vim mode) backed with an Obsidian vault. I share a subfolder of the vault with my wife via iCloud, who can open it up on her phone and see the content and make edits in a non-techie way.
if you want to fall back to a less hardcore intro try spacemacs or doom emacs, very vim friendly
I have been interested in trying emacs for a long time (I recently found an old emacs config file of mine from 2003) but I haven't actually used it until the last few months when I gave Spacemacs another shot. Coming from vim, and having some pretty great defaults out of the box, I wouldn't suggest anyone try anything else at this point.
That said, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how org-mode can work with my existing Obsidian vault. So far it's working pretty well, but I still feel like I'm missing some things to make it really all click together.
You can also combine this with TRAMP to work on databases you can't directly access from your local machine. E.g.:
My “Poor Man’s SQL Workbench” trick is to…
Et voila! L’établi SQL du pauvre.Screenshot + sample code in the gist below (a `.org` file, as befits this topic :)
https://gist.github.com/adityaathalye/a6004acd34c683bcc806b2...
I used Org Mode for all mandatory assignments [0] when I was a student, it worked super well and I could create well formatted LaTeX documents/PDFs from it as well. The supervisors were very impressed that I did my assignment in LaTeX, and I could never be bothered to correct them :-)
[0]: https://gist.github.com/sondr3/ae4eda2816cfeda7b8597ce1c48d0..., best viewed as the raw file for all the details
Very much this. In fact, I had made a note about earning "professor points", in my (giant) blog post [0] describing my org-mode use...
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43157672YMMV, my probability professor forbade typeset homework submissions, regardless of how well presented they were.
I don't recommend SP's section for MA421, regardless of the excellent teaching quality.
^derived^deprived
ah ... hahaahhh ... quite possibly, I was sleep, ah, derived at the time of finishing it up ... i shall let the typo remain, to vex yet another eagle-eyed reader
Kudos to you, my biggest regret nowadays was not learning how to use orgmode (and org-roam) in college. As long as you set up a proper environment and have an org-publish config you barely need to bother with verbose LaTeX documents.
https://www.orgroam.com/
I had an amusing incident that was related, quite some years back as a CS undergrad. One prof had quite poor eyesight, so had a no-pencil rule for assignments. Typed was OK, neat pen was fine also. (My writing has always been atrocious, typed it is.) As it happened, I used LaTeX (and I knew she did also.)
She also had a rule about promptness of assignment delivery, meaning the start of class when she arrived. Fair enough!
On this one assignment, I had done all but the last question at home, and printed it off, with the hope that I could finish it at the lab and send it to a laser printer in another building. At the time, labs used shared, dot-matrix printers that were usually jammed. I got the last question done, sent it to the printer, then checked the queue. Apparently someone was printing a book, not going to get done before class.
I emailed her my .tex file, with the explanation that I'd hand in my incomplete printout in class, but would appreciate if she could mark the last section so I knew how I did. This was sent well before class, as the timestamp would show. The prof ended up printing, marking, and returning this version, and I received full marks!
You can also set a `.pgpass` in your `$HOME` or point another path to a `PGPASSFILE` envar, so postgresql credentials don't leak to main org file.
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/libpq-pgpass.html
I think even better to encrypt the password in ~/.authinfo.gpg, e.g.,
And then in the source block header, you can inject it into a variable That's a built-in elisp function. Yes, you can call arbitrary functions to assign vars for org-mode source blocks. You can even assign shell command output, I often do things like: What's crazy about this shit is that you can even pipe the content of the file back into itself: That's an absurd bananas degree of ingenious engineering that makes you question the sanity of programmers who deliberately abandon Emacs, even after experiencing such power.I used a similar setup a long while ago and wanted a way to connect to databases easily. So I wrote some code to parse the MySQL and Postres config files to extract database info in Emacs: https://stackoverflow.com/a/46114944
Emacs with databases without org would be interessing. I now there is sql-mode which supposedly works to connect with an inferior process but a tuorial about that would be nice
You may be interested in PGmacs, a viewing/editing interface for PostgreSQL.
https://github.com/emarsden/pgmacs
(self-plug)
I also use: https://github.com/kostafey/ejc-sql for stuff not natively supported by sql-mode in emacs FWIW
I second that and would be interested in the sqlite-mode version of the tutorial.
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