Disagree with this take. It's not the 80 years of being part of NATO and under American influence; it's something more subtle and insidious that grew in Europe in the past 20 years. For example the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was met with fierce opposition in Europe. For at least a decade after that the EU thought of itself as a more civilised alternative to the US, not as a vassal.
Then we completely missed the tech revolutions of the past 10-15 years; we let ourselves be recolonised by giant American companies spreading American culture; finally we let the US decide our international politics, from Eastern Europe and Russia, to the Middle East, Iran, and China.
This has been of course also enabled by extraordinarily weak leaders that probably have been supported by the US because of their weakness. And here we are: with a war on our doorstep that cripples our economy, paralysed in front of the Gaza genocide, and having renounced closer commercial ties with China. Completely incapable of upholding our values and even our laws.
>For at least a decade after that the EU thought of itself as a more civilised alternative to the US, not as a vassal
Nonetheless it was a vassal, starting with WWI and solidifying post WWII. Never mind the political subserviency: Europe also has increasingly shed its cultural identity.
The reason the "invasion of Iraq in 2003 was met with fierce opposition in Europe" was two-fold: because Europe still had some remnants of real old-time leftists past 1991, but also because the US liberals were also against Bush and "Bush's war", and the European establishment's sentiment of being the "more civilised alternative to the US" was about them not being like the "rednecks" and "religious zealots", but more like the more refined US liberal elites. Still modelled after the US, then, and following its voice.
Yes of course, what you say is all correct. But there used to be in Europe at least a strong alternative voice and point of view, while now the subordination to US ideology and goals is complete and unchallenged. My perception is that something new has happened. In part it's the end of the cold war and Soviet Union that has deprived Europe of an alternative ideological center; in part I think it's the rise of social media and the dominance of US internet companies that has wiped any cultural border between the US and Europe (but with information still flowing in one direction only).
That's funny bc I rather think of the US as the schoolyard bully
Disagree with this take. It's not the 80 years of being part of NATO and under American influence; it's something more subtle and insidious that grew in Europe in the past 20 years. For example the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was met with fierce opposition in Europe. For at least a decade after that the EU thought of itself as a more civilised alternative to the US, not as a vassal.
Then we completely missed the tech revolutions of the past 10-15 years; we let ourselves be recolonised by giant American companies spreading American culture; finally we let the US decide our international politics, from Eastern Europe and Russia, to the Middle East, Iran, and China.
This has been of course also enabled by extraordinarily weak leaders that probably have been supported by the US because of their weakness. And here we are: with a war on our doorstep that cripples our economy, paralysed in front of the Gaza genocide, and having renounced closer commercial ties with China. Completely incapable of upholding our values and even our laws.
>For at least a decade after that the EU thought of itself as a more civilised alternative to the US, not as a vassal
Nonetheless it was a vassal, starting with WWI and solidifying post WWII. Never mind the political subserviency: Europe also has increasingly shed its cultural identity.
The reason the "invasion of Iraq in 2003 was met with fierce opposition in Europe" was two-fold: because Europe still had some remnants of real old-time leftists past 1991, but also because the US liberals were also against Bush and "Bush's war", and the European establishment's sentiment of being the "more civilised alternative to the US" was about them not being like the "rednecks" and "religious zealots", but more like the more refined US liberal elites. Still modelled after the US, then, and following its voice.
Yes of course, what you say is all correct. But there used to be in Europe at least a strong alternative voice and point of view, while now the subordination to US ideology and goals is complete and unchallenged. My perception is that something new has happened. In part it's the end of the cold war and Soviet Union that has deprived Europe of an alternative ideological center; in part I think it's the rise of social media and the dominance of US internet companies that has wiped any cultural border between the US and Europe (but with information still flowing in one direction only).