You asked this question at a time when Europeans are just getting up to go to work, and most SV folks are fast asleep. I would not expect responses to reflect an unbiased sample.
I’ve also noticed marked differences in average sentiment across the course of the day, which likely also reflects time zone effects.
There are non-SV types here as well (myself included), but yes, HN is made by and for a very particular subset of the dev world. And, ironically, that subset is not "hackers".
I am in Texas working from home for a DC defense contractor. I have never worked for any company based in California and I have been a corporate software developer for almost 20 years.
I'm retired from SV tech, and built early computers from S-100 boards and lots and lots of solder (hasn't affected my brain). Like Kevin Kelley, and Ted Nelson "Computer Lib/Dream Machines" and maybe even Jobs and Woz, always felt that computers should liberate people.
I've despised "big tech" even when it wasn't so big, as in a certain creep dumpster-diving to get the source code for BASIC.
I've written down ideas for liberating kinds of tech, but it occurred to me that they often just try to undo the damage that's been done by sociopaths leveraging technology, and some of the worst offenders with a brilliant new business model: Sell ads. Low hanging fruit at the expense of print media.
And I experienced the internet before ads.
> Advertising is a poison that demeans even love – and we're hooked on it: George Monbiot (2011) [0]
I live in Berlin and I am self-employed. I earn a living from simplifying German bureaucracy for immigrants.
I am quite stereotypically left-leaning, and hostile to greedy behavior and "move fast and break things". I mesh pretty well with the vibe on HN, because most people here seem pretty jaded about Big Tech, finance bros and the like. I also like how polite the conversation is.
I don't think I'm pro-bigtech or particularly anti-bigtech.
I'm pro-use-shit-that-works and I'm anti-exploit-people-to-fill-coffers. Unfortunately, BigTech seems to shift out of the first realm and firmly into the second fairly quickly. People so enamored with the fact that it could be done, that they don't bother to think if it _should_ be done. The current AI-industry-wide financial circle-jerk that is sure to end in tears. Shoving AI down everyone's throats in some attempt to draw a profit from the hugely inefficient (and rarely useful) ai blob. So many on-screen adverts that reading an article without uBlock should earn you some kind of reward just for being able to make it through all the distractions and page layout oddities. It's enshittification in the name of profit, and it sucks.
And it's completely lacking kindness, an essential virtue for the world. Reliability, Functionality, Kindness. These are my lowest bars for life.
>I am long time lurker here and recently I got fed up of the overall pro BigTech sentiment.
That's just like your opinion man.
You asked this question at a time when Europeans are just getting up to go to work, and most SV folks are fast asleep. I would not expect responses to reflect an unbiased sample.
I’ve also noticed marked differences in average sentiment across the course of the day, which likely also reflects time zone effects.
There are non-SV types here as well (myself included), but yes, HN is made by and for a very particular subset of the dev world. And, ironically, that subset is not "hackers".
I'm a european Python developer for a private ERP company, grown from 1000 to 6000 employees in the last 7 years or so.
I am in Texas working from home for a DC defense contractor. I have never worked for any company based in California and I have been a corporate software developer for almost 20 years.
Mostly small companies. Not really startups as HN would understand the term, but some tried to be. But now working for big (but sub-faang) tech.
I am in the UK and retired after 50 years of it.
If you only look at the front page you will get that impression. Not if you look at newer stuff. I use hnapp.com for that.
[That's why I am here!]
Not a SV employee, never have been. Online since 79.
I'm retired from SV tech, and built early computers from S-100 boards and lots and lots of solder (hasn't affected my brain). Like Kevin Kelley, and Ted Nelson "Computer Lib/Dream Machines" and maybe even Jobs and Woz, always felt that computers should liberate people.
I've despised "big tech" even when it wasn't so big, as in a certain creep dumpster-diving to get the source code for BASIC.
I've written down ideas for liberating kinds of tech, but it occurred to me that they often just try to undo the damage that's been done by sociopaths leveraging technology, and some of the worst offenders with a brilliant new business model: Sell ads. Low hanging fruit at the expense of print media.
And I experienced the internet before ads.
> Advertising is a poison that demeans even love – and we're hooked on it: George Monbiot (2011) [0]
Still worth trying. The times demand it.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/advert...
People like stuff that makes them cash. It's a subconscious bias that's hard to escape.
I live in Berlin and I am self-employed. I earn a living from simplifying German bureaucracy for immigrants.
I am quite stereotypically left-leaning, and hostile to greedy behavior and "move fast and break things". I mesh pretty well with the vibe on HN, because most people here seem pretty jaded about Big Tech, finance bros and the like. I also like how polite the conversation is.
I don't think I'm pro-bigtech or particularly anti-bigtech.
I'm pro-use-shit-that-works and I'm anti-exploit-people-to-fill-coffers. Unfortunately, BigTech seems to shift out of the first realm and firmly into the second fairly quickly. People so enamored with the fact that it could be done, that they don't bother to think if it _should_ be done. The current AI-industry-wide financial circle-jerk that is sure to end in tears. Shoving AI down everyone's throats in some attempt to draw a profit from the hugely inefficient (and rarely useful) ai blob. So many on-screen adverts that reading an article without uBlock should earn you some kind of reward just for being able to make it through all the distractions and page layout oddities. It's enshittification in the name of profit, and it sucks.
And it's completely lacking kindness, an essential virtue for the world. Reliability, Functionality, Kindness. These are my lowest bars for life.
(also, not SV - not even 'murican!)