Indeed it is. It's 125 amps, which apart from car starting motors is essentially unheard of because of wiring losses. I think the article somehow got this wrong.
At these power levels, rational designs raise the source voltage, then down-convert closer to the loads.
Wild hardware flex for a garage project. Reverse-engineering the Pi 5's MIPI to push 5.6 Gbps from custom MASH sigma-delta ADCs to a Lattice ECP5 FPGA to the Raspberry Pi is serious engineering. The idea that the RF receiver looks like a "camera" to the Pi while the transmitter is a "display" is super creative. Getting a 1.5 kW, 240-antenna EME array for $2,499 is actually cheap for something like this.
Their standalone 4-antenna tiles (https://moonrf.com/updates/) show off some killer apps, like 30 fps spatial RF visualization and NEON-optimized drone video interception.
I'm rolling my eyes at the "Agentic Transceiver" part, though. It is highly doubtful that an onboard AI casually writes, debugs, and compiles a real-time C app with analog video color sync recovery and decode in ten minutes.
While true I do worry that it's mandating a pi 5 for each tile? And who knows how specific it is to the 5. Doesn't seem very open relative to something like a usb superspeed, pcie, or 10gbe. USB could be maybe done with the LIFC-33U depending on I/O limitations. PCIe can be done on various FPGAs in the lattice lineup and others.
If you use PCIe, theoretically you don't need to reverse engineer how they implemented because you're not at the edge of the spec like they are here.
That said, I've thought about doing what they're doing countless times and it is nice to see it would work.
I think they're claiming the actual transmit power is 240W (23.8 dBW), and the EIRP is 63.1 dBW.
I am sort of skeptical of the claimed gain... even at 6GHz, you need a 2-meter parabolic reflector to get 40dB, the array is 1/10th that diameter. EDIT: Ignore this second paragraph I misread the spec page.
I'm struggling to understand the signal chain or antenna architecture here. If those two MAX chips are 2829s this would be 2x2 mimo per tile but I'm not super familiar with that product line and the PCB layout looks like a 4x4 setup.
And yeah, the agentic stuff is dumb, I've played a ton with doing low level SDR work on Opus 4.6 and it's truly ass.
Also, the "can't radar, plz don't ITAR" is horseshit. Some basic fw tweaks and you could get this to be, at the very least, a sweet FMCW setup.
> Also, the "can't radar, plz don't ITAR" is horseshit.
My assumption is that they're trying to avoid crossing a legal line, as opposed to being personally invested in the idea of preventing radar use by a determined hobbyist.
I used to work radar systems. The point being that the hardware is fully capable. The software side is quite well understood at this point. There will be plenty of repos floating around in a year to turn this into an airborne drone SAR or whatever. Functional range resolution will be around 4m but that's plenty for most shenanigans.
You are not missing it -- it does not seem to be published yet. The site says open source but from the updates page it looks like the hardware design files and SDR software will ship alongside the physical product when it launches. This is pretty common with open-source hardware projects: the design is open but the repo appears after the first production run, partly because the schematics and firmware are still being iterated on and partly because publishing incomplete designs invites issues before the team is ready to support them.
What I find more interesting than the license question is the software side. They mention a pre-loaded SD card with SDR applications, which probably means GNU Radio or something built on top of it. If they release the beamforming DSP pipeline as open source, that is genuinely valuable -- most phased array signal processing code is locked behind defense contractor NDAs. Having a reference implementation that people can study and modify on commodity hardware at the 399 dollar price point would be a significant contribution to the SDR community regardless of when the repo goes live.
I'm pretty sure the "country restrictions" are about ITAR, not the destination country regulation.
When the page says "uh… do not use this to build a phased array radar… even though you could. And if you do, then in no way were we involved. Just don't", this is extremely likely to be about ITAR.
Each country has different regulations for amateur radio bands. In Germany for example, in the bands > 2 GHz maximum power is capped at 75W PEP [1], the US has vastly different limits [2]
I'm sorry, I thought it was very obvious that I was talking about ITAR export controls, not about destination country domestic regulation.
This is a clue from their webpage: "Not intended for radar applications. Core functionality needed for radar not included due to export control restrictions."
> The target launch price is probably ~$399 (dependent on the tariff landscape over the next month). For that you get the QuadRF tile, an included Raspberry Pi 5, the custom case, tripod, USB-C power supply, cables, and a pre-loaded SD card with a ton of cool SDR applications.
Meanwhile... the RPi alone will probably make up 299 dollars of that price tag [1].
It is not a good time to design hardware that needs RAM. Arrest and imprison Sam Altman.
How would that be a useful comparison? Aren't the use-cases too different?
Not only is the moon >100x farther away (even accounting for near-horizon satellite angles), but you're also trying to bounce a signal off it as a passive reflector, which is harder than just transmitting something an active lunar receiver could detect and re-transmit back.
> Power Supply: 12 V DC (≈1.5 kW peak)
That's a lot of juice for 12VDC
>> Power Supply: 12 V DC (≈1.5 kW peak)
> That's a lot of juice for 12VDC
Indeed it is. It's 125 amps, which apart from car starting motors is essentially unheard of because of wiring losses. I think the article somehow got this wrong.
At these power levels, rational designs raise the source voltage, then down-convert closer to the loads.
Wild hardware flex for a garage project. Reverse-engineering the Pi 5's MIPI to push 5.6 Gbps from custom MASH sigma-delta ADCs to a Lattice ECP5 FPGA to the Raspberry Pi is serious engineering. The idea that the RF receiver looks like a "camera" to the Pi while the transmitter is a "display" is super creative. Getting a 1.5 kW, 240-antenna EME array for $2,499 is actually cheap for something like this.
Their standalone 4-antenna tiles (https://moonrf.com/updates/) show off some killer apps, like 30 fps spatial RF visualization and NEON-optimized drone video interception.
I'm rolling my eyes at the "Agentic Transceiver" part, though. It is highly doubtful that an onboard AI casually writes, debugs, and compiles a real-time C app with analog video color sync recovery and decode in ten minutes.
While true I do worry that it's mandating a pi 5 for each tile? And who knows how specific it is to the 5. Doesn't seem very open relative to something like a usb superspeed, pcie, or 10gbe. USB could be maybe done with the LIFC-33U depending on I/O limitations. PCIe can be done on various FPGAs in the lattice lineup and others.
If you use PCIe, theoretically you don't need to reverse engineer how they implemented because you're not at the edge of the spec like they are here.
That said, I've thought about doing what they're doing countless times and it is nice to see it would work.
> While true I do worry that it's mandating a pi 5 for each tile? And who knows how specific it is to the 5.
In the multi-tile array it apparently still only needs one Pi [1] as the FPGAs do the heavy lifting.
[1] https://moonrf.com/updates/
> Getting a 1.5 kW, 240-antenna EME array
It says 1W TX power per antenna. So the 240 antenna array which draws 1500W has a transmit power of 240W.
EIRP. There's some gain involved.
I think they're claiming the actual transmit power is 240W (23.8 dBW), and the EIRP is 63.1 dBW.
I am sort of skeptical of the claimed gain... even at 6GHz, you need a 2-meter parabolic reflector to get 40dB, the array is 1/10th that diameter. EDIT: Ignore this second paragraph I misread the spec page.
The MoonRF array is a full 1 meter diameter as shown on the page
I'm asleep and I misread that as 10cm. Thanks.
I'm struggling to understand the signal chain or antenna architecture here. If those two MAX chips are 2829s this would be 2x2 mimo per tile but I'm not super familiar with that product line and the PCB layout looks like a 4x4 setup.
And yeah, the agentic stuff is dumb, I've played a ton with doing low level SDR work on Opus 4.6 and it's truly ass.
Also, the "can't radar, plz don't ITAR" is horseshit. Some basic fw tweaks and you could get this to be, at the very least, a sweet FMCW setup.
> Also, the "can't radar, plz don't ITAR" is horseshit.
My assumption is that they're trying to avoid crossing a legal line, as opposed to being personally invested in the idea of preventing radar use by a determined hobbyist.
MAX2850/2851 4x4. Also, large radar stuff is more nuanced than "just some fw tweaks" as you claim. Same as Facebook is not just some PHP scripts...
I used to work radar systems. The point being that the hardware is fully capable. The software side is quite well understood at this point. There will be plenty of repos floating around in a year to turn this into an airborne drone SAR or whatever. Functional range resolution will be around 4m but that's plenty for most shenanigans.
At a functional range resolution of 4M would it even qualify as violating ITAR even if it was tweaked to do so?
Previous post.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45790672
looks like there have been updates since then: https://moonrf.com/updates/
It says it’s open source but I can’t find a link to a repository. Am I missing something?
You are not missing it -- it does not seem to be published yet. The site says open source but from the updates page it looks like the hardware design files and SDR software will ship alongside the physical product when it launches. This is pretty common with open-source hardware projects: the design is open but the repo appears after the first production run, partly because the schematics and firmware are still being iterated on and partly because publishing incomplete designs invites issues before the team is ready to support them.
What I find more interesting than the license question is the software side. They mention a pre-loaded SD card with SDR applications, which probably means GNU Radio or something built on top of it. If they release the beamforming DSP pipeline as open source, that is genuinely valuable -- most phased array signal processing code is locked behind defense contractor NDAs. Having a reference implementation that people can study and modify on commodity hardware at the 399 dollar price point would be a significant contribution to the SDR community regardless of when the repo goes live.
"Country restrictions apply". Which countries?
All I guess? If you're licensed you should know what you can and can't do.
No, amateur radio does not cover ITAR.
Which is why I ask. I'm not a lawyer, but there could be a general dual use ban, but with some other regulation that exempts e.g. UK.
Any that forbid or restrict satellite comms?
Don’t use this in Iran.
I'm pretty sure the "country restrictions" are about ITAR, not the destination country regulation.
When the page says "uh… do not use this to build a phased array radar… even though you could. And if you do, then in no way were we involved. Just don't", this is extremely likely to be about ITAR.
Each country has different regulations for amateur radio bands. In Germany for example, in the bands > 2 GHz maximum power is capped at 75W PEP [1], the US has vastly different limits [2]
[1] https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/afuv_2005/anlage_1.html
[2] https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D...
I'm sorry, I thought it was very obvious that I was talking about ITAR export controls, not about destination country domestic regulation.
This is a clue from their webpage: "Not intended for radar applications. Core functionality needed for radar not included due to export control restrictions."
> The target launch price is probably ~$399 (dependent on the tariff landscape over the next month). For that you get the QuadRF tile, an included Raspberry Pi 5, the custom case, tripod, USB-C power supply, cables, and a pre-loaded SD card with a ton of cool SDR applications.
Meanwhile... the RPi alone will probably make up 299 dollars of that price tag [1].
It is not a good time to design hardware that needs RAM. Arrest and imprison Sam Altman.
[1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2026/dram-pricing-is-killi...
Cool, how full array compares to the single antenna placed on Starlink satellite ?
How would that be a useful comparison? Aren't the use-cases too different?
Not only is the moon >100x farther away (even accounting for near-horizon satellite angles), but you're also trying to bounce a signal off it as a passive reflector, which is harder than just transmitting something an active lunar receiver could detect and re-transmit back.